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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*We
started out as a pack
library. We purchase our own envelopes if we run out. We
then went
no-pack and within a few weeks had more items coming back with
banged up
corners, gouged covers, etc. We then switched back to pack
and I am
glad. It seemed we were always submitting a complaint or
request for
payment to Rides. The problem we ran into after we switched
back was that
libraries returning items to us had printed the MeL straps or
labels ahead of
time and it showed we were no-pack. So we had to ask Sue to
remind
libraries to be aware that libraries may change their
preferences and to be on
the look out. Don't get me wrong, I think having the option
is great, but
our items were getting damaged and it was cheaper for us to
purchase envelopes
than replace books. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hope this
helps!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*Hi
Loretta, we've been no-pack for
a number of years. We love it! </span></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list
.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times
New Roman"">Not much damage at all, mainly to larger,
skinny paperbacks that curl if people use hefty rubber
bands. </span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list
.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times
New Roman"">Do realize, though, that RIDES won't
reimburse for lost no-pack items, only AV. As we use a
local delivery system instead of RIDES, it's a moot point
for us as each system tends to blame the other for
everything! Can't say that we've lost many items either,
though.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list
.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times
New Roman"">We have put a few new envelopes into the
system, but I can't say we've needed to do it often. In
fact, we've offered up bundles of envelopes in the past when
they've stacked up past what we can store. Some libraries
will send your items back packed regardless, so I think
that's where we gain them...</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list
.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times
New Roman"">Boxes for AV are another story. We box all
AV (our own and others') just to be safe. However, as MeL
allows envelopes for AV packing you could go that route if
you wish. Boxes, though, definitely prevent almost all AV
damage so it's a nice thing to do if you can afford it. We
use Uline for our boxes, but I'm sure there are other
options out there.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list
.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times
New Roman"">I think many libraries use the system of
2/page labels for no-pack and 6/page for pack (you might
already do this), and it usually doesn't let us down. </span></li>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:normal;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list
.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times
New Roman"">If you do switch, we've found it is safest
if you stick one end of the larger label inside the book,
fold it over the cover, and then use at least 3 rubber bands
to secure. </span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*We're no pack. Huge time-saver. I don't
see
things coming back damaged.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">*I was a little leary of moving to no-pack,
but it has
worked out well. There have been a few damaged items, usually
CDs which
weren't packed. I'm rarely low (or have too many) envelopes.
It has
saved us a lot of staff time.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*We are a
no-pack library.
Made the switch from pack about two years ago. We have lost
maybe two books to
damage in all that time. I think for a public library,
no-pack is the way
to go. Needless to say, we save a lot on packaging materials
and it's
better from a workflow standpoint also. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*We have
always been no pack and had
no problems; in fact I wish everyone were except for AV and
obviously fragile
items like pop ups. We bought a few DVD mailers early on but
have never needed
to purchase anything else.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*In our
area packing envelopes can
not be recycled so we put out the word to our patrons that we
recycle packing
envelopes and our patrons bring bags and boxes of them to us.
We have
never had to purchase envelopes and are often giving boxes of
them away because
we end up with too many. Patrons also appreciate that we
reuse them. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
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style="mso-special-character:
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</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt
687.0pt 732.8pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*We
are a no pack library.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The
con is that
if something is damaged or lost in transit you are not
eligible for
reimbursement.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>The big
pro for us is
time savings.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We do a
large MeLCat
volume.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>It is much
more cost effective
for us in terms of staff time vs. the occasional cost of a
lost/damaged
item.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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320.6pt 366.4pt 412.2pt 458.0pt 503.8pt 549.6pt 595.4pt 641.2pt
687.0pt 732.8pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*Hi
Loretta</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Cadillac
Wexford Public Library is
NO PACK, and we have been almost from the beginning of our
participation in
MeLCat. We experience very little damage from RIDES issues,
and what does
happen certainly doesn't equal the extra cost of packaging
materials and the
staff time to pack non AV items. We try to re-use the
materials we
receive from packed items for the items we need to send back
packaged, so need
to buy very few supplies: mostly tape and sometimes rubber
bands. I hope
this information is helpful.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*Hi
Loretta,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">I passed
your query to my staff who
handle our MEL's and here is a response:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">*"</span><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";background:white">We have been
very happy being a no-pack
library. The time it saves is immeasurable and it also saves
paper and space in
our bins. Also, after being no-pack since the beginning, we
have had no problem
at all with material being damaged.</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;
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Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal;background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hope this
helps"</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal;background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal;background:white"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Have a
great Tuesday!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""><br
style="mso-special-character:
line-break" clear="all">
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
New Roman"">*We have been a no
pack library for about 10 years and less than a handful of
books have actually
been damaged. I must say it is very nice not having to place
our books in
envelopes and saves time for sure. When we switched to no pack
I was nervous
about items being lost or damaged but I am so glad we did
switch. You won't
regret it!</span></p>
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style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
New Roman"">Whatever you choose
there are always libraries needing to get rid of envelopes, we
share with other
libraries:)</span></p>
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<pre>*We are an academic library, so we tend to hang on to our holdings for a long time. Largely because of this, we pack, to cut down on damages and lost items. Also, we tape the shipping labels to the package, and we think this reduces potential for shipping errors, due to lost labels, etc.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>We do purchase some envelopes, and reuse many of the envelopes we receive.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>If we run short, we will respond to offers for packing materials available, and if we have extra, we offer them on the listserve.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>All in all, Mel costs us so much less than regular ILL, so we don't worry too much about the envelope costs; we'd be buying them anyway.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Hope this is helpful</pre>
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<pre>*We here in Allendale are a no pack and I can't recall a single item being </pre>
<pre>damaged, as a result, in my 7 years.</pre>
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<pre>*We are a pack library and cannot imagine going any other way.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I actually have</pre>
<pre>had a couple of our books returned without packing and they were damaged.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Of</pre>
<pre>course I have no idea if it happened in delivery or while the other user had</pre>
<pre>it but usually the borrowing library tells me that it was fine when they send</pre>
<pre>it into delivery. </pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>I recycle envelopes from anything that we get in.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I purchase movies from</pre>
<pre>Amazon and they come in nice large bubbled envelopes.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>I just take off the</pre>
<pre>mailing label and voila!<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Many of my staff have started bringing in their used</pre>
<pre>envelopes too as a way to recycle them.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>If need be, I have purchased a large</pre>
<pre>box of envelopes from Sam's before too.</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>My biggest frustration with the no pack libraries is how to get the labels on</pre>
<pre>to return them.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We have gotten some fairly mean emails from libraries because</pre>
<pre>a little bit of tape has gotten on the cover of their book.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We always use</pre>
<pre>removeable tape but apparently sometimes it does damage the cover.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We</pre>
<pre>definitely try to not get tape on the cover but sometimes it just feels</pre>
<pre>impossible, we usually tape the rubber bands but.....-we want the book to get</pre>
<pre>back home!!</pre>
<pre> </pre>
<pre>Just my two cents worth—</pre>
<pre> </pre>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman"">*We have had packaged items
damaged, so I wonder if they are
more careful with unpackaged items. </span></p>
<pre><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">We usually have plenty of envelopes. Whenever something arrives to my house in a packing envelope, I bring in the envelope to re-use.
</span></pre>
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Loretta Sherfield
Branch District Library
Interlibrary Loan Department</pre>
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