<div dir="ltr">I agree with Phillip and Kate. We wouldn't hesitate to celebrate Black History month, or Women's history month and I believe that Gay pride fits in this category as opposed to religious observances. You might argue a Christmas tree isn't religious but they only come out at Christmas time and you'll rarely see them in a University Library (at least in my humble experience).<div><br></div><div>Adrienne </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Phillip J Kwik via Michlib-l <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michlib-l@mcls.org" target="_blank">michlib-l@mcls.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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The nativity scene and the tree may very well be illegal, as we still have separation of church and state in this country. For a time, at least.<br>
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Pride month is not a religious celebration and is completely appropriate.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think it would be a mistake to equate a Pride month display, which speaks to issues of civil rights, with displays of religious observances. A library, as a public institution, has the responsibility to reflect all its users. In as much as
we are public, we should also be cognizant of the historical separation of church and state and be wary of aligning ourselves with a specific religious tradition.
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<p>A bit puzzled about why you would leave up the Pride Month display, but worry about the Nativity? Seems like both reflect cultural values of American society.<br>
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<p>If you really want to make it appear that you are not supporting one religion over another, I would focus on adding displays from other belief systems, not taking away one.<br>
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<div>Hi, hoping to get some feedback on a patron complaint. He took issue with a Nativity that gets put up in front of the library every year, and it's got me wondering if we're implicitly supporting one religion over another. The library isn't actually responsible
for the Nativity, but it's easy to see why people would think we are. We also put up a Christmas tree every year, and though it has no religious iconography, I'm wondering if we should avoid it in the future. My research has led me to believe we're not out
of line, but religion can be a touchy issue. I'm interested to hear from anyone who has fielded similar complaints, or has a deeper understanding of the issue. I'm asking around here about the Nativity, just to make sure I have all the facts.<br>
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<div>He also took issue with a Pride Month display we have up, as evil according to his religion. I'm not planning on taking that down, but if anyone has answered a similar challenge I would appreciate hearing how it went.<br>
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