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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you all very much! A mixed response – probably because libraries have more of their products than just the self- checkouts. Five said it was good to have the maintenance agreement. A couple said it was
too expensive and it was easier to pay for the service visit. There were some that kept the agreement for one product and not for another. One mentioned that they were slow to respond in minor issues. Also – software upgrades may be more difficult without
an agreement. (From Liber 8 to Quick connect).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks again!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Bibliotheca Maintenance Agreement Questions:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi! Can anyone who uses this company for their self check outs give me their opinion as to whether to continue with the maintenance or not?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Papyrus">Melissa Huisman, Library Director<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gary Byker Memorial Library of Hudsonville<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3338 Van Buren Street, Hudsonville MI 49426<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 616-669-1255 X 5 Fax: 616-669-5150<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:mhuisman@hudsonville.org">mhuisman@hudsonville.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Melissa,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">We used to pay Maintenance on pads and self-check. We now only pay on the self-check and I believe it is worth the money. The equipment is expensive to replace and you will not get software updates unless you do.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">We have a 4 year old machine and have called for service 3 times. Each time our software needed an update also. There is no way to get this except from Bibliotheca.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">In the future I don't think we will buy from them since the original cost seems to be more expensive, but until then it seems to be cheaper to pay the maintenance fee.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Mary Russell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Assistant Director<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Tamarack District Library<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">832 S Lincoln Ave, Box 469<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Lakeview, MI 48850<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">989-352-6274<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">tamaracklibrary.org<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello, Melissa.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We currently have 5 Bibliotheca self-checkout machines. We are looking into EnvisionWare currently. However, if we do stay with Bibliotheca, then I do absolutely recommend their maintenance program. We used to have AV unlockers. Those things
would break daily/weekly. However, since we have removed them, we have had little trouble with them. However, if you do need maintenance and you don’t have a contract, the fees just to come out are astronomical. We do not have a service agreement for our gate
counter. It costs over $1,000 every time they come out. From my experience with Bibliotheca, they have to be called at least once or twice a year. It ended up being cheaper for us to go on their service agreement for the self-checkouts.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck in your decision!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black">Kathy McKinney</span></u></b><u><span style="color:black"> | System Specialist
<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#365F91">Troy Public Library |510 W. Big Beaver, Troy, MI 48084 | Office: 248</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#365F91">619.7583 |<a href="http://www.troypl.org/"><span style="color:blue">troypl.org </span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#365F91"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">Melissa,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">The Roseville Public Library installed Bibliotheca gates eight or nine years ago and paid for the maintenance package. We used it a lot the first three years due to problems settings that the Bibliotheca
techs were using and a few bad parts. Then we didn't need service for two or three years. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">I discontinued the almost $3,000 maintenance agreement on our two sets of gates (one singe, one double) two years ago since the gates are so old. We haven't had any problems and it was a chance I was
willing to take. Other libraries told me that their service calls ranged from $500-$700 - must less expensive for one or even two a year compared to the maintenance agreement. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">Regards,</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">Jacalynn Harvey</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">Director</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:black">Roseville Public Library</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Melissa,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">If you can afford the maintenance agreement then you should continue with it. I find them to be helpful and they know exactly what they are doing with the machines and gates
if you have them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt">Carla D. Archer, <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt">Support Services Coordinator <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt">Southfield Public Library<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt">26300 Evergreen Rd.<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt">Southfield, MI. 48076<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt"><a href="mailto:carcher@southfieldlibrary.org%20">carcher@southfieldlibrary.org
</a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:3.75pt">248-796-4320<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Good afternoon,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Checkouts, Smart Chutes, RFID Pads (workstations) to name just a few. Our school of thought on Maintenance & Support is as follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">· If we can’t fix it ourselves and it needs to be working within 24 hours, then purchase the maintenance & support contract.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">· If we can’t afford to throw it out and buy a new one when it dies, then purchase the maintenance & support contract.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">· If we expect to receive updates to remain current (e.g. new functionality and bug fixes), then purchase the maintenance & support contract.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The above philosophy is the same we use for all of our Technology from our Network Equipment to File Servers to Phone Systems to Microsoft Office Products.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Most Enterprise Technology (Hardware & Software) all offer maintenance & support agreements. It is one of the most often misunderstood & overlooked costs of running an smooth operation. The best analogy I can give you if you don’t
purchase it is like not purchasing Oil Changes for your car. Your car will run for a while, but IT WILL eventually have problems without doing the required maintenance. The same thing can be said for your IT Equipment, including Bibliotheca Equipment. Eventually
you will wish you had it because the little cost every year will be far less than buying the new one later.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Lance<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As you saw from Lance’s message to you, KDL uses many of the Bibliotheca products – Self Checkouts, Smart Chutes, RFID Pads (workstations) to name just a few. Our school of thought on Maintenance & Support is
as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">If we can’t fix it ourselves and it needs to be working within 24 hours, then purchase the maintenance & support contract.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">If we can’t afford to throw it out and buy a new one when it dies, then purchase the maintenance & support contract.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">If we expect to receive updates to remain current (e.g. new functionality and bug fixes), then purchase the maintenance & support contract.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The above philosophy is the same we use for all of our Technology from our Network Equipment to File Servers to Phone Systems to Microsoft Office Products.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Most Enterprise Technology (Hardware & Software) all offer maintenance & support agreements. It is one of the most often misunderstood & overlooked costs of running an smooth operation. The best analogy I can
give you if you don’t purchase it is like not purchasing Oil Changes for your car. Your car will run for a while, but IT WILL eventually have problems without doing the required maintenance. The same thing can be said for your IT Equipment, including Bibliotheca
Equipment. Eventually you will wish you had it because the little cost every year will be far less than buying the new one later.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Again, if there is anything I can do to help, even if it is talking through options with you, don’t hesitate to call. I totally understand not every Library System has the same budget, but we all are trying
to make what we do have stretch further and further. So the principals are the same and I would be happy to discuss anytime.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:36.0pt;font-family:"Vladimir Script";color:#1F497D">Kurt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Kurt Stevens</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">IT Director</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#1F497D">Kent District Library</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#1F497D">814 W. River Center Drive</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comstock Park, MI 49321</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#1F497D">C: 616-293-7094 |
</span><a href="mailto:kstevens@kdl.org"><span style="color:blue">kstevens@kdl.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose">Hi Melissa! </a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I canned the agreement the first year I started at ODL, five years ago. We were paying 8 GRAND A YEAR!!!!! I am happy to report that it was a wise decision. I had them out once and even with their insanely high rate for service I think
that one call out was only a couple hundred bucks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We used the $8,000 saved to create an Early Literacy Center.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hope you are doing well. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Andrea<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Bliss Pro"">Andrea Estelle, MLIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There was one other larger library that mentioned that the support that they received from Bibliotheca for minor issues was not very fast. They had other concerns as well about the 3M/Bibliotheca merge and software/hardware support/updates.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Papyrus">Melissa Huisman, Library Director<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Gary Byker Memorial Library of Hudsonville<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3338 Van Buren Street, Hudsonville MI 49426<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: 616-669-1255 X 5 Fax: 616-669-5150<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a href="mailto:mhuisman@hudsonville.org">mhuisman@hudsonville.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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